As Xax would say, “HOLY STARS!” I decided to launch a podcast as a way to connect with authors and creatives I fangirl over, and sure, I’ve been on panels, moderated panels, and went on author interviews, but I never produced a podcast before! I’ve a lot to learn, but I know this is going to be great craic!

For my very first episode, I chat with Canadian speculative fiction and award-winning romance author, Jamieson Wolf. Even though he and I are good friends, I learned even more about him through this interview. And you’re going to want to stay until the end to find out his fun fact!

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(Transcript for this episode is below. Please note: The play Jamieson appeared in was actually called Unidentified Human Remains and the True Nature of Love, by Brad Frasier.)

Transcript

Cait Gordon: : Hi, and welcome to In the ‘Cosm. I’m your host, Canadian speculative fiction author Cait Gordon. I’ve started this podcast so I can chat with authors and other creatives I simply fangirl over. I hope you enjoy diving into my microcosm and feel inspired to seek out the works of these amazing humans.

[Episode begins]

Hi, I’m Cait Gordon, and today is an exciting day because it’s the very first episode of the very first season of In the ’Cosm! I’m so delighted to have with me Canadian speculative fiction and romance, author, poet, and painter Jamieson Wolf. Jamieson is the award-winning author of Love and Lemonade, which is the third book in the Lemonade series published by Renaissance press. He’s also a number one, bestselling author for his book of poetry, Living Beyond the Waves. His shorter work of fiction, The Descent, appears in the award-nominated anthology, Nothing Without Us. And he wrote an incredible memoir called Little Yellow Magnet, all about his life after receiving an MS diagnosis. Welcome Jamieson!

Jamieson Wolf: Yay! Thank you for having me. This is awesome.

Cait Gordon: I personally feel you don’t do enough award-worthy stuff. [laughs]

Jamieson Wolf: It’s funny because I typically have this thing that I don’t feel like I do enough, but you know I write, I paint, I exercise, I, you know, I work full time. And I still have this drive to do more.

Cait Gordon: I know, but like, you’re making me tired. [laughs] I see your Facebook posts: “I wrote this book, and that book, and I’m sending this book out,” so I think you’re doing really well.

Jamieson Wolf: I think so as well. My husband Michael always says, “You do more than people that I know that don’t have a disability or disease, you know. So, you know, it’s all good. I just gotta sparkle.

Cait Gordon: Keep on sparkling. And I do appreciate all the sparkles you[ve been sending me over the last few days because it’s been a challenging time for all of us really.

Jamieson Wolf: Well, yeah, we’re kind of watching the world implode, you know, and hoping that it finds a way to hold itself together.

Cait Gordon: Yeah, exactly. And I think it’s great to have community at a time like this as well.

Cait Gordon: I’m going to start asking you a bunch of questions because I’m sure our audience is dying to learn more about this award-winning-nominated-all-kinds-of-stuff author. Okay, so again I mentioned about social media…

Jamieson Wolf: Yup.

Cait Gordon: …and I know you spent a lot of 2020 writing.

Jamieson Wolf: Yes.

Cait Gordon: Can you please share with us what you’ve been working on?

Jamieson Wolf: Well in 2020 I, what did I do? So, I wrote a novel called Queen of Swords. And it actually tells the Fool’s Journey. And in a tarot deck, there’s the major arcana. So what I wanted to do was actually write a book about Tarot but a novel. So, it takes one chapter per card and goes through the whole story with a woman that’s trying to find herself in a dystopian world. And that’s all I’ll say right now, but it will say the pandemic actually became a backstory in the novel, which I wasn’t expecting.

Cait Gordon: Oh, very cool. I had the pleasure of listening with a few other authors to some of Queen of Swords. We were all rather than thrilled, and when it was your time to stop reading, we were like, “What?! You’re going to stop there?”

Jamieson Wolf: Well, I have to stop somewhere! But I know it’s unlike anything I’ve ever written before. And, you know, I really enjoyed it. I really hope other people do too. It’s currently, being looked at for acceptance, so cross your fingers. I also wrote a novel called blah blah, oh, The Book of Lost Souls, about a wizard, Xavier, who’s disabled on the page. And his best friend. Felicia, I almost forgot the name there for a second. And she’s a trans witch. And, you know, she became more powerful, and once she accepted who she really was. And Xavier has to fight to accept who he is, with having a disability.

Cait Gordon: Very cool. I mean, when I think about it, like you say, fight to accept who he is, is that what you just said,?

Jamieson Wolf: Yep.

Cait Gordon: Yeah. Um, I think it’s really important, as disabled folks, to talk about things like internalized ableism because it is a thing that we… pretty much all of us have gone through. In your story, The Descent, what I really loved about that story… a wizard who is fighting the, the embodiment of his disability… can you just explain a little bit what The Descent is because it’s such a fascinating story.

Jamieson Wolf: Well, The Descent, concerns a wizard named Jackson (Jefferson) who is going to see the Oracle, in hopes of finding a cure for his multiple sclerosis. And it’s really, you know, me on the page. He really has to make a voyage to the Oracle, and every voyage for every person is different. And so his voyage is kind of like my worst nightmare. He has to go down, you know, I think it’s 105 steps. And meanwhile, he’s talking to the embodiment of his MS. He has made him into a character and given in the name of Max Shadow. And that was the name I gave my illness, you know, because, as a writer, you know, I always give names to things I do not understand. Thereby, it allows me to fight it more, if that makes sense, or it’s easier fight… like, knowledge is power, so if it has a name, it can be killed, theoretically. So that’s the whole setup of the story. But goes a lot differently than Jackson (Jefferson) has planned.

Cait Gordon: And that’s what I love, right? When there’s like an own-voices author writing something. The tropes tend to be circumvented, and you get an ending that maybe people wouldn’t normally expect who don’t have that lived experience, so I love that. And then you know it just kind of segues into my second question. You are very open about having MS and cerebral palsy and Little Yellow Magnet was so honest, so gripping. You know it’s very… I have to tell the audience that we have this little joke that I’m the official editor of Jamieson Wolf and you are the official Jamieson Wolf.

Jamieson Wolf: Yeah.

Cait Gordon: And one of the most challenging things for me as an editor of your work is not reading ahead. [laughs] You know, it’s like, “No, you have to edit this now. You can’t just speed read it,” but Little Yellow Magnet I found particularly raw, honest. And I’ve noticed that more and more, you’ve started to include disabled characters in your works of fiction.

Jamieson Wolf: Yeah.

Cait Gordon: Like descent, and you also have a character in Love and Lemonade. Can you tell us more about, you know, what was like for you to write Little Yellow Magnet and how that influenced you to perhaps write more disabled characters in your work?

Jamieson Wolf: Well it’s funny, I mean, years ago, a friend of the time, asked me like, “Oh are you going to write a novel with a disabled character?” And I said, “No.” I said, “You know, I write my blog Two Steps at a Time.” And I figured that was enough. That should be enough. And, you know, I said to him, I said, “Who would want to read about someone like me?” You know, but that’s the mindset that I had, and then I realized it was after, when I sat down to unknowingly write Little Yellow Magnet, I had the idea of everyone saying like, “Oh, you’re so positive all the time,” you know, “How do you do it with living with multiple sclerosis and through palsy?” And so I said well I brought I sat down to write a book of positivity; however. that book was 28 pages. [Cait laughs] You know, because then they already know that I focus on medication, I look into my spirit and I read tarot cards. You know, I’m trying to be kind to myself, but it’s like, hmmm that’s not going to make a book, you know? So, writing Little Yellow Magnet came about because I realized I had to write the whole thing. The whole thing. Like everything from, you know, first day of the journey to and, and not just the journey with MS, but everything else that was going on around me at the time. And so, I knew it would be a warts and all book. And I know the most grueling year and a half, I took to write that book. It’s not very long; it’s 200 and something pages. But oh my gosh, you know, it was it was grueling, but it was cathartic in a way, you know to get that out on the page. And I realized how much I was holding on to, if that makes sense.

Cait Gordon: Yeah.

Jamieson Wolf: Yeah, but after writing that it was like, “Well, okay, I did that so I can do characters, I can write about people like me.” I can write about my experience, not just in the memoir, but I wrote the character Zack into Love of Lemonade. And, in particular because when I was trying to date before I met my husband, dating was not fun. Dating was not fun at all because in the gay community especially, you know, if you have a disease or disability, you’re discarded. You know, I’m speaking personal experience.

Cait Gordon: Yeah in your personal experience in the community that you were in, right?

Jamieson Wolf: Yeah.

Cait Gordon: Yeah.

Jamieson Wolf: And that’s just the way. So then I thought, you know, wouldn’t it be awesome if somebody read that book, and they saw, you know, obviously the person, you know, falling in love, you know, like I did with Michael.

Cait Gordon: Yes, exactly. Yeah, and he’s a great character as well. I was really, I was really thrilled to find out that you are going to include, it’s Zack, right?

Jamieson Wolf: Yeah.

Cait Gordon: I was so happy when you were saying, you’re going to include that character, but I get very happy, and there’s more disabled characters in fiction period, right? [laughs] Especially written by…

Jamieson Wolf: …disabled people! But originally I was gonna write, I wanted a disabled character in the third novel, I was gonna write somebody in a wheelchair. But I was like, “I don’t know anything about that. I have no idea about being a wheelchair.” So again, I wrote my own voice, you know so Zack is pretty much me like as a character, he loves books, is thrilled that the guy he’s dating—William—has like a whole library. You know, and just there’s joy. There’s also a determination, and, you know, guts to keep going.

Cait Gordon: Yeah, exactly right? Awesome.

Jamieson Wolf: Yay.

Cait Gordon: Um, oh [laughs], this is a question where… because I am going with fear and trembling into the world of self-publishing this year. I still love my Renaissance press, it’s just like my personal journey, I decided to revisit my very first novel, and the protagonist is an alcoholic. I am also a recovering alcoholic, and I thought, “I need to get this out of the world.” I just passed 30 years of sobriety and such.

Jamieson Wolf: Yay!

Cait Gordon: Yay for me, whoo, and what most people are thinking is: What? This is you sober?

Cait Gordon: But [laughs] we were talking, you and I, the other day about what it’s like to be a hybrid author and and for those who don’t know the term that’s someone who’s both traditionally published by a publisher and someone who self publishes or is an independent author. So, what do you… so you are a hybrid author, right?

Jamieson Wolf: Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah.

Cait Gordon: How is it being a hybrid author? What are the things you like, dislike those kinds of…

Jamieson Wolf: I think for the most part, I love… ’cause my writing output tends to be a lot, you know, and I know after a solid edit like it’s good stuff. But publishers don’t always take it, and being published traditionally is difficult because of that publisher is always looking for something specific that, you know, they’re looking for something in particular. And so they might not publish it, they might not accept it. And then for me, like, I have like I write my poems, my anthologies of poetry. You know, I know those are good. I know those are a great, so why not put them out there? And it’s a sense of freedom. Like I don’t need to have a publisher—I can be my own publisher, I can do it myself. That being said, while I love doing it myself, my God, technology is annoying as all get out. I’m, I’m putting out my first novella actually, The Ghost Mirror?

Cait Gordon: Yes!

Jamieson Wolf: And the issues I had with that, trying to get that out, have been awful. And, but you know what? Ultimately worth it. It’s like trying to do a puzzle, and make sure all the pieces are trying to fit together, and then when you get the piece, you’re like: YES! Just, you know, I did that. That was me last night. It was like… I was like, “Well, I’ve done this, I’ve done this,” talking about there’s an error. “What error!,” I’m yelling at my computer. And then when it finally worked it was like,”YESS!” You know, Michael was like, “Are you okay?” “I’m fine, I’m fine.” [Cait laughs] So, while it can be frustrating, it’s ultimately gratifying.

Cait Gordon: Right!

Jamieson Wolf: And then, well then, the the response I get… I get more responses for my poems and my memoir than all the other books that I have out with traditional publishers. I’m not saying those books are bad but they’re really good because you know, I wrote them. [Cait laughs] They’re awesome.

Cait Gordon: I’m concerned about your lack of confidence, Jamieson. I just thought I’d put that out there.

Jamieson Wolf: My mother will probably listen to this, going, “Well, there’s that humbleness I like.” [Cait laughs] Yeah, but no I mean, publishing yourself gives you a certain amount of power, I mean the royalties go by to you. And it’s just… there’s something wonderful about it, you know, that the whole world of publishing has changed, right? And the majority of stuff out there is self-published now. So, and people love it. So if you love your words enough put them out there. Don’t be afraid.

Cait Gordon: Yes, exactly. And most of my clients are independent, authors, and the quality of their work is outstanding. And I think too that when you are marginalize authors as well, there’s… from what I’ve been hearing, there’s less of a chance of getting traditionally published, unless, perhaps a small press has a focus of diversity in their authors and their stories and such. You know, I don’t know enough about what it’s like to be with a big publisher. I know I love my little indie, my small press Renaissance, I love them. But for me, I, I just like you did your first novella…

Jamieson Wolf: Yeah.

Cait Gordon: …I really felt I had a story to tell with that very first novel I wrote my 20s and then hit it away for a couple of decades… or so [laughs], but about first things… Talk to us a bit about the ghost mirror because that was really interesting, too. For me as an editor to say hey let’s see what past Jamieson is like and what kind of stories… for I found The Ghost Mirror… that even though that was your first work, the storytelling that is so you was still there.

Jamieson Wolf: Yeah.

Cait Gordon: And what was that the whole experience of revisiting the ghost mirror like for you?

Jamieson Wolf: It was amazing. I mean it’s been out of print since, oh gosh, okay, well, e-treasures press, or e-treasures publishing went out of business a few years ago, so I think it’s been out of print for quite a while. And I thought, well, you know I love this book, you know, so I wanted to revisit it and get it out there. Because, you know, I always want that first book somewhere out there in the world, and to kind of show where I started and where I’ve gotten to, like the growth as an author. So it was important to me to get it out there in the world, but reading again was just like, wow, and it brought up everything that… brought up like the fact that Mave was actually named after my cat that I had at the time.

Cait Gordon: Oh, that’s true!

Jamieson Wolf: Yeah, my monkey. And she was 17 when she passed away, so reading that, you know, it’s like, well, you know there’s Mave! o that way she’s always alive on the page somehow. But then I wrote it because I was out of work. I write about this briefly in the Foreword, but then it brought back those memories too and my stepfather at the time, Mark, he said, “Well,” he’s like, “Don’t worry about being out of work, you’ll get a job. You always wanted to write. Do you have an idea? do you have a story?” And I was like, Well, yeah, but I you know it’s not any good.” He’s like, “No, you know what? Write it. Do it, write it. And when when you’re done, you’ll get a job.” I’m like, oh, whatever fine, so yeah, and I wrote it. And it was just so neat to to delve into something longer than a short story or poem and thinking about that as I wrote this is like, you know, kind of thinking, you don’t always have to believe in yourself, you know, like when I wrote it, I had no idea what I was doing. I no clue. None at all. But I wrote it anyway.

Cait Gordon: Yeah.

Jamieson Wolf: Yeah. And it came out so beautifully. And it’s still one of my favorite books, especially because of the first one but mostly because it’s awesome.

Cait Gordon: It’s really, I really enjoyed it. I love the world building, the characters. It’s available now on Amazon, right? The Ghost Mirror?

Jamieson Wolf: Yes, Amazon ebook, the paperback is coming soon (It’s out now!). The Kobo version should become shortly. And there’ll be other retailers as well.

Cait Gordon: Now, do you plan to write more sequels?

Jamieson Wolf: Oh yeah, well the idea originally… I wrote The Ghost Mirror and then I wrote my first romance novel, and was like, “Oh, well I haven’t done this before. Let’s try this.” [Cait laughs]. And now I’ve written like over 40 romance novels.

Cait Gordon: My goodness.

Jamieson Wolf: Oh, those took off and The Ghost Mirror kind of took a backseat. But I’ve always regretted, not , regretted, I’ve always wondered what would have happened. So I have the original idea was to have a trilogy of short novels. The Ghosts Mirror, The Silver Glass, and the Last Witch. And you know, telling Mave’s whole story.

Cait Gordon: Well, I can’t wait to read those because I’ve been having difficulty concentrating in this last 12 months, and having a great paced short work like a novella…

Jamieson Wolf: Yeah.

Cait Gordon: It just kept me engaged, and I think, I think, you know, I love writing long works, and I used to love reading long works, but there is something really great about short works as well. Do you agree with that?

Jamieson Wolf: I do i just finished The Colors of my Past, by Laura Esquivel. It’s the sequel to Like Water for Chocolate.

Cait Gordon: Oh my gosh!

Jamieson Wolf: Oh so good! [Cait laughs] I finished it last night, and at first, I thought, “Oh my god, it’s been 30 years, like, honey, why?” [Cait laughs, Jamieson laughs] You never know! But it was just so beautiful it. I thought, you know, would it lose the magic and it doesn’t have the setup of the recipes, but it still feels the same. And it was, it’s only 111 pages. So, like bing bang boom I was done. I think the first day I read like 45%, you know.

Cait Gordon: Right.

Jamieson Wolf: And so having that done and then having something that moved me so emotionally but not be this long book… was beautiful because it was like taking a sip of really cold water that satisfies.

Cait Gordon: Lovely. That’s a great, that’s a great review.

Jamieson Wolf: Yay!

Cait Gordon: It like quenches the thirst as a reader, right?

Jamieson Wolf: It did, it was all about food and love, and family and magical realism still. And just about acceptance, so it was just this gorgeous book but it was, it felt like a big book. And like the emotion, and everything in it felt like a big book in the end.

Cait Gordon: Well, that sounds fantastic. It’s funny, when you started talking about like food and family and friendship and such, I started thinking about your Lemonade series, which for me was, it’s like the… it reminds me of Tales of the City but in its own… it has its own style but it’s reminiscent of that family.

Jamieson Wolf: Yeah, that was the intent.

Cait Gordon: Yeah. So my question is: I know awards aren’t everything. You know, they don’t actually change how good a book is or not, but it must have felt really good to win that award for Love and Lemonade last year.

Jamieson Wolf: Yeah, best GLBTQ book of 2019, yay!

Cait Gordon: And that was Love and Romance Cafe, right? LR Cafe?

Jamieson Wolf: LR Cafe Love Romance Cafe, run by Don Roberto. And it was just a beautiful surprise. I was I was like, you know, they always say like oh is this prize to be nominated? Well it was! I was like, What do you mean I’m nominated? Like I didn’t know, okay, great! Well, let’s let’s try, let’s hope, and it was just nice to see recognition in that way, you know. To have, well, to win an award, anyway, it is an amazing thing, but then to have a book that you spent, you know, like a year writing… you know, that you worked on… it was the… it was the hardest book to write because it was the third book in the trilogy. It had to tie up all the loose ends that had left, you know?

Cait Gordon: Right.

Cait Gordon: Yeah. And so it was just like, oh, it was actually the first book I kind of plotted. I don’t normally plot.

Cait Gordon: Ohhh?

Cait Gordon: Oh, no I don’t plot at all because I get writer’s block that way. You know, because the characters do what they want. They’re like:

 “No, I’m not doing that. Sorry, [Cait laughs] but you know I don’t want to do that.

“But I wrote this down!”

“I don’t care. I’m doing this.”

So like they kind of agreed to go with me on this one, but—

Cait: Oh that’s nice of them, really. [laughs]

Jamieson:  I was very thankful, but then to to win an award, you know, for a book, I don’t know, it just, it makes everything worth it, you know, or that it’s like gratification you get noticed. You know,

Cait Gordon: I mean it’s nice to have that peer recognition, right?

Jamieson Wolf: Yeah. Of course it is!

Cait Gordon: You know, um, anyway, we were all very proud of you for winning that and good for you that you now have stickers on your copies.

Jamieson Wolf: Yep, I do. And they’re golden sparkly, you know!

Cait Gordon: Golden sparkly. That is totally you.

Jamieson: Yep.

Cait: Okay, so now we’re getting towards the end of this podcast. How is that possible even?

Jamieson Wolf: DUN DUN DUNNN!

Cait Gordon: So it’s 2021.

Jamieson Wolf: : Yup.

Cait Gordon: : So, what do you hope to achieve this year?

Jamieson Wolf: Um, well, writing wise, I want to finish the second, and hopefully the third book of the Clocktower trilogy. And the first book is coming out from Renaissance later this year. Yay.

Cait Gordon: WHOO!

Jamieson Wolf: Whoo, and then I want to work on being kinder to myself, because I hold myself to this ridiculously high standard. And then I can’t possibly reach it, and then when I don’t reach it, I get upset. And I go in like a downward spiral. And I get angry at myself because I feel like a failure for some reason. But then, I’ve set this level of myself, you know, I don’t know, I don’t know why I do it, so I need to stop that and need to rewire the way I think. But yeah, so mostly be kind to myself, and given how 2021 is starting a lot like the end of 2020…ugh oy vey.

Cait Gordon: Somebody said that 2021 is actually three 2020s wearing a trench coat [laughs] and a hat in disguise.

Jamieson Wolf: Paul Atkinson is a podcaster I really like, and he said, “Welcome to day number…” you know like, 49th of  December 2020, you know, because…

Cait Gordon: : Yes, exactly.

Jamieson Wolf: So, for me, I just want to focus on spreading joy and spreading cheer and helping to make the lives of other people better just by being there for them or you know, sending them sparkle emojis, you know.

Cait Gordon: : Yeah and you know, in my experience with my circle of disabled friends, we tend to be so good to each other, and so hard on ourselves, and you know, it’s normally you want to tell people to treat other people the way you treat yourself, Well… I’m not gonna treat other people the way I treat myself.

Jamieson: I treat everyone else, way better than I treat myself.

Cait Gordon: We’re tough, you know, and I don’t know if it’s because we spend so much of our lives naturally having to manage a lot in our bodies that we’re used to pushing through things. And then we forget,  “Hey you, know it’s actually okay if we don’t push through this particular thing right now. We can actually go and rest. We can read a book, we can watch a show. I don’t know if you feel that way.

Jamieson Wolf: : Oh yeah, for sure. You know, and I need to, I said to Michael that I need to for 2021, I need to read more. You don’t have to always be writing something . I don’t have to write… my goal every night was 1000 something words. I was like, “It can be 30 words, it can be 300, it can be 20.” It doesn’t have to be thousands, you know, and I don’t have to drive myself to exhaustion to do something, and have to listen to my body more, you know, given the way the world is right now, especially listen to your body.

Cait Gordon:

Yes exactly, I agree. Okay. Um, oh, my very last question. This is what I want to ask everybody: tell us a fun fact about yourself!

Jamieson Wolf: A fun fact about meself…

Cait Gordon: Oh, ye got Irish for a second thar!

Jamieson: Oh, ye know… Well okay I appeared naked on stage.

Cait Gordon: : [bursts out laughing]

Jamieson Wolf: : [laughing] So, my degree from University was in theatre. And I ended up doing… I played Kane in a play called Unfortunate…crap… [Unidentified Human Remains and the True Nature of Love, by Brad Frasier.] I probably totally got the title of the play wrong.

Cait Gordon: We’ll fix it in post! [laughs]

Jamieson Wolf: It’s just a lovely, lovely messed up play, and the director thought, “Well, people do get naked, they do have sex.” But you think you’re on stage, right? Well, the director said, “Well hey, let’s, let’s go big [or] go home.” And so there’s a lot of nudity. I was fully frontal, fully back on stage, and oddly freeing, very freeing. It was like, you know, doing the nude scene and hearing, “Oh my god!” [Cait laughs] you know. Yeah. You know, that’s a fun fact.

Cait Gordon: You know [laughs] you’re just so amazing, Jamieson [both laugh]. I didn’t know this about you. That’s fantastic. I have heard other actors talk about that free feeling. I guess once you’re naked, there’s nowhere else to go from there.

Jamieson Wolf: Well, it’s not like you can so like you can hide, you know? Although you do wonder where to put your cell phone. [Cait laughs] In a naughty place. But, no I mean it was it was, there was something about it. Something about… I think I was drawn to Dramatic Arts because I got to be other people and pretend to be other people. And then I realized, you know, early on, it’s like, well, I want to find out who I am first.

Cait Gordon: Very nice. Well, that’s all the time we have for today. Thank you so much for coming on this very first podcast. I just enjoyed myself so much I got lost in it. [laughs]

Jamieson Wolf: You’re welcome. Thank you for having me. This has been awesome.

Cait Gordon: Folks, you can learn more about Jamieson Wolf and where to buy his books on his author website jamiesonwolf.com, and at his publisher website wolfflowpress.ca. Transcript for today’s episode of In the ’Cosm is available at caitgordon.com. That’s C-A-I-T Gordon dot com. Hope you can join us next time. Take care, stay safe.

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Cait Gordon is a disability advocate who wants everyone to be wise and think of others as we battle COVID-19!

Cait is also the author of humorous space opera novels Life in the ’Cosm and The Stealth Lovers, and she is the co-editor of the Prix Aurora Award nominated anthology Nothing Without Us. When Cait’s not writing, she’s editing manuscripts and running The Spoonie Authors Network, a blog whose contributors manage disabilities and/or chronic conditions. Her latest new adventure is hosting the In the ’Cosm podcast, which is really an excuse to gush over authors she admires.